Wednesday, February 24, 2021

Deliberation and Dialogue across Differences

Professor Pamela Conners is highlighted this week for teaching our students how to have important conversations that can change the dynamics of how people work together for the better. As athletes who communicate with one another on a daily basis, we know these skills can be game changers on and off the pitch!

Dr. Pamela Conners meets with Gustavus students last winter.

“How do we build the capacity to talk to one another about, with, and across our differences?” asks Dr. Pamela K. Conners, associate professor and chair of the Department of Communication Studies at Gustavus Adolphus College.

Conners might seem to have her hands full with such critical issues on the national stage, but she expresses hope with a generation of students who “are hungry for the opportunities to engage.”

“I can’t change the national discourse,” said Conners, who also serves as director for the College’s Public Deliberation & Dialogue (PDD) program. But, she stresses, “It’s critical that we create opportunities to express our own views, talking about our differences and to find points of connection”—especially on issues like racial justice and the ongoing pandemic.

“They are curious about the world,” she says of Gustavus students. But Conners adds that it’s critical to also look locally to contribute to important conversations. “‘Local’ is also family and they can’t always talk comfortably to their family members, their neighbors,” she notes.

“We have to help students build their capacity to engage in conversations about challenges we face,” she says. “This isn’t about winning an argument. There are more than two sides…It’s about trying to learn about and from people with different perspectives.”

Examining both contemporary and historical texts, Conners’ research centers on the arguments and language choices that policymakers and community members use in deliberating about public policy.
“As a rhetorician, my research and teaching considers the political and social consequences of public discourse. I analyze the ways in which language and symbols are used to influence the way we think, what we believe, and how we respond to each other,” the professor says.

That focus on dialogue is a natural fit for Gustavus students, who have “a willingness to listen, a willingness to learn,” according to Conners. And that’s the message she hopes will not only be a critical piece of the PDD program at Gustavus but eventually move into more of a cross-curricular experience for students. For example, Conners is collaborating with chemistry professor Amanda Nienow on a project to expose undergraduate STEM students to deliberative pedagogy, an approach that teaches respectful conversations by “speaking with” rather than “talking to” diverse stakeholders.

There have been plenty of different perspectives over the national political debates and the COVID pandemic. Conners says students, and society as a whole, haven’t always had it easy in developing healthy ways to discuss these important—yet at times controversial—issues.

“It’s troubling,” Conners admits. “And it doesn’t always go well.” Still, she stresses that it is important to “help students learn how to ask critical questions.”

“You have to think about your moments and opportunities. Context and audience should shape when, how, and whether we should engage with others.”

Ratana Chheng ‘22 is taking advantage of those opportunities on campus in Saint Peter as an international student from Siem Reap, Cambodia. The financial economics major is also a PDD program Fellow.

“Gustavus stood out to me because of its reputable sense of community, small and more personalized classes, and its desire to welcome and grow its international student population,” Chheng said.

And she loves the opportunities the program provides for her and others at Gustavus.

“The PDD team emulates a strong sense of community who seeks to understand and appreciate differences in ideas, approaches, and other aspects,” she said, “while using what we learned in class and our experiences to facilitate deliberations and dialogues about sometimes sensitive but always influential and important topics for communities on campus, in town, the county, and beyond.”

And, she notes: “Dr. Conners contributes to the strong, welcoming bond in the PDD team by showing consistent openmindedness and trust in our interactions.”

James Miller ’21 grew up in Northfield and is now a senior biology and geography major and PDD program Fellow. He chose Gustavus “because of the opportunity to learn outside of my major and try out new things along the way.”

“I really value the way that both PDD and Dr. Conners seek to create spaces that are conducive to productive conversation despite differences. How we talk with one another about important issues matters, and I have always appreciated this program’s emphasis on collaborative decision-making.”

Collaborative decision-making also means bringing together diverse voices within a community, according to Conners. And in doing so, it’s important to both invite such diversity and give attention to how questions are framed.

“How you ask the question matters. It determines who is willing to come to the table with you and what you can accomplish together,” Conners says.


Conners says the PDD program philosophy encourages “creating spaces for students to ask questions and make arguments as well as to listen and respond to others. The classroom is a key space to practice and hone those skills.”

For Miller and fellow PDD program Fellows, good communication is central to a liberal arts education and a democracy

For Conners, that message has to affirm some of her efforts.

“The goal isn’t to change everyone’s mind,” Conners says. “The goal is to learn and figure out the way forward together. ”

Wednesday, February 10, 2021

“Nature Treats Us All the Same”


Zoe Ford is taking advantage of the new routine Covid has brought all of us, hiking across a historic trail covering over 1,200 miles in Wisconsin! This athletic feat is surely daunting, but Ford speaks of the perseverance the journey has taught her to have at all times, which is a huge piece of advice for our athletes: perseverance even when the situation seems daunting builds character and makes it all worth it in the end.


Emily Ford '15 and her hiking companion, Diggins.




Checking in from a windswept trailhead outside of Dayton, Wisconsin, Emily Ford ’15 has to put down the phone to exchange greetings with a well-wisher.

“Sorry about that,” Ford says when she’s back on the line. “There’s been so much support out here on the trail.”

“The trail” she’s referring to is Wisconsin’s Ice Age Trail, a nearly 1,200-mile hiking path that is being carved across Wisconsin, following the contours left by ancient glaciers that shaped the state’s geography.

It’s Thursday, January 21. Ford has hiked 382 miles since starting her journey in Potawatomi State Park near Sturgeon Bay on December 28. She expects to finish in early March at the trail’s western terminus in St. Croix Falls.

A native of Brooklyn Park, Minn. and geology major, rugby player, and Collegiate Fellow during her time at Gustavus, Ford is no stranger to the outdoors. Her career as the head gardener at Glensheen Mansion in Duluth—where she’s been featured by Duluth Trading Co.—means that winter is her off season.

Diggins shows off her gear after a frosty day on the trail.

“I’d been looking for a long trail to hike for awhile before learning about the Ice Age Trail in the summer of 2019,” Ford says. “I checked out message boards and did some research on the internet to find a partner, looking for other people of color who are interested in backpacking or hiking. There are a lot of groups like that on the coasts and in the south, but I didn’t find much in the Midwest.”

Then 2020 happened.

“We’re living in a time of change,” Ford explains, mentioning renewed calls for racial justice in the wake of George Floyd and the constant uncertainty of COVID-19. “I was going to do the trip anyway, but everything coalesced.” She decided to strike out on her own.

When she’s not greeting other hikers or being supported by “trail angels” who drop off supplies or offer a warm place to sleep, Ford is alone except for the company of Diggins, an Alaskan husky sled dog named after Minnesota Olympic Nordic skier Jessie Diggins.

Almost a month into the experience, Ford and Diggins are covering 15 to 20 miles each day and camping most nights. “I’ve learned to listen to my body,” she says. “Doing a long-distance trip like this, you can’t just sprint through it. You’ve got to give yourself time to rest.”

Ford and Diggins are supported by a steady stream of people who have been inspired by the journey, leaving care packages along the way or joining for a short hike along the trail. Her fans follow along on Ford’s Instagram page, the Ice Age Trail Facebook page, or the Duluth News Tribune, all of which post regular updates on her progress.

“Winter is tough on people for a lot of reasons. I think this gives them something to look forward to,” Ford says. “I see it when I encounter people on the trail. They’re happy to see me…and it’s helpful for me too.”

The Gustie is a passionate advocate for outdoor recreation and hopes her journey inspires other people of color to hike, ski, or camp.

“Nature is a place of equality in society,” she says. “This is about opening the door for more people of color to enjoy the outdoors.”

“Nature treats us all the same.”